diff --git a/browser/configure.zcml b/browser/configure.zcml
index 9ca250b..d8e1014 100644
--- a/browser/configure.zcml
+++ b/browser/configure.zcml
@@ -647,6 +647,13 @@
       factory="loops.browser.form.EditConcept"
       permission="zope.View" />
 
+  <page
+      name="test.html"
+      for="loops.interfaces.INode"
+      class="loops.browser.node.TestView"
+      permission="zope.View" />
+
+
   <!-- inner HTML views -->
 
   <page
diff --git a/browser/node.py b/browser/node.py
index 8c733da..cc82db9 100644
--- a/browser/node.py
+++ b/browser/node.py
@@ -1006,3 +1006,18 @@ def getViewConfiguration(context, request):
     viewAnnotations = request.annotations.get('loops.view', {})
     return dict(skinName=viewAnnotations.get('skinName'),
                 options=viewAnnotations.get('options'))
+
+
+
+class TestView(NodeView):
+
+    def __call__(self):
+        print '*** begin'
+        for i in range(500):
+            #x = util.getObjectForUid('1994729849')
+            x = util.getObjectForUid('2018653366')
+            self.c = list(x.getChildren())
+            #self.c = list(x.getChildren([self.defaultPredicate]))
+        print '*** end', len(self.c)
+        return 'done'
+
diff --git a/concept.py b/concept.py
index 528313d..8fbc8c3 100644
--- a/concept.py
+++ b/concept.py
@@ -63,6 +63,8 @@ from loops.view import TargetRelation
 
 class BaseRelation(DyadicRelation):
 
+    fallback = '*'
+
     def __init__(self, first, second, predicate=None):
         super(BaseRelation, self).__init__(first, second)
         if predicate is None:
@@ -72,10 +74,16 @@ class BaseRelation(DyadicRelation):
         self.predicate = predicate
 
     def getPredicateName(self):
+        if self.predicate is None:
+            return None
         baseName = super(BaseRelation, self).getPredicateName()
         id = util.getUidForObject(self.predicate)
         return '.'.join((baseName, id))
 
+    @property
+    def ident(self):
+        return self.predicate
+
     # Problem with reindex catalog, needs __parent__ - but this does not help:
     #__parent__ = None
     #@property
@@ -89,12 +97,16 @@ class ConceptRelation(BaseRelation):
     """
     implements(IConceptRelation)
 
+    fallback = 'c*'
+
 
 class ResourceRelation(BaseRelation):
     """ A relation between a concept and a resource object.
     """
     implements(IConceptRelation)
 
+    fallback = 'r*'
+
 
 # concept
 
@@ -182,7 +194,7 @@ class Concept(Contained, Persistent):
 
     def getChildRelations(self, predicates=None, child=None, sort='default',
                           noSecurityCheck=False):
-        predicates = predicates is None and ['*'] or predicates
+        predicates = predicates is None and ['c*'] or predicates
         relationships = [ConceptRelation(self, None, p) for p in predicates]
         if sort == 'default':
             sort = lambda x: (x.order, (x.second.title and x.second.title.lower()))
@@ -196,7 +208,7 @@ class Concept(Contained, Persistent):
 
     def getParentRelations (self, predicates=None, parent=None, sort='default',
                             noSecurityCheck=False):
-        predicates = predicates is None and ['*'] or predicates
+        predicates = predicates is None and ['c*'] or predicates
         relationships = [ConceptRelation(None, self, p) for p in predicates]
         if sort == 'default':
             sort = lambda x: (x.first.title and x.first.title.lower())
@@ -277,7 +289,7 @@ class Concept(Contained, Persistent):
                              noSecurityCheck=False):
         if resource is not None:
             resource = getMaster(resource)
-        predicates = predicates is None and ['*'] or predicates
+        predicates = predicates is None and ['r*'] or predicates
         relationships = [ResourceRelation(self, None, p) for p in predicates]
         if sort == 'default':
             sort = lambda x: (x.order, x.second.title.lower())
diff --git a/expert/README.txt b/expert/README.txt
index 9f9d949..89e946e 100644
--- a/expert/README.txt
+++ b/expert/README.txt
@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ Type- and text-based queries
   >>> from loops.expert import query
   >>> qu = query.Title('ty*')
   >>> list(qu.apply())
-  [0, 1, 68]
+  [0, 2, 68]
 
   >>> qu = query.Type('loops:*')
   >>> len(list(qu.apply()))
@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ Type- and text-based queries
 
   >>> qu = query.Type('loops:concept:predicate') & query.Title('t*')
   >>> list(qu.apply())
-  [1, 29]
+  [2, 29]
 
 State-based queries
 -------------------
diff --git a/resource.py b/resource.py
index 274fa5e..b9110ef 100644
--- a/resource.py
+++ b/resource.py
@@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ class Resource(Image, Contained):
 
     def getConceptRelations (self, predicates=None, concept=None, sort='default',
                              noSecurityCheck=False):
-        predicates = predicates is None and ['*'] or predicates
+        predicates = predicates is None and ['r*'] or predicates
         obj = getMaster(self)
         relationships = [ResourceRelation(None, obj, p) for p in predicates]
         if sort == 'default':
diff --git a/xmlrpc/README.txt b/xmlrpc/README.txt
index 005e192..9b2e033 100755
--- a/xmlrpc/README.txt
+++ b/xmlrpc/README.txt
@@ -53,16 +53,16 @@ domain concept (if present, otherwise the top-level type concept):
   ['children', 'description', 'id', 'name', 'parents', 'resources',
    'title', 'type', 'viewName']
   >>> startObj['id'], startObj['name'], startObj['title'], startObj['type']
-  ('4', u'domain', u'Domain', '0')
+  ('3', u'domain', u'Domain', '0')
 
 There are a few standard objects we can retrieve directly:
 
   >>> defaultPred = xrf.getDefaultPredicate()
   >>> defaultPred['id'], defaultPred['name']
-  ('3', u'standard')
+  ('14', u'standard')
   >>> typePred = xrf.getTypePredicate()
   >>> typePred['id'], typePred['name']
-  ('1', u'hasType')
+  ('2', u'hasType')
   >>> typeConcept = xrf.getTypeConcept()
   >>> typeConcept['id'], typeConcept['name']
   ('0', u'type')
@@ -80,12 +80,12 @@ applied in an explicit assignment.
 
 We can also retrieve a certain object by its id or its name:
 
-  >>> obj2 = xrf.getObjectById('4')
+  >>> obj2 = xrf.getObjectById('3')
   >>> obj2['id'], obj2['name']
-  ('4', u'domain')
+  ('3', u'domain')
   >>> textdoc = xrf.getObjectByName(u'textdocument')
   >>> textdoc['id'], textdoc['name']
-  ('10', u'textdocument')
+  ('9', u'textdocument')
 
 All methods that retrieve one object also returns its children and parents:
 
@@ -117,7 +117,7 @@ We can also retrieve children and parents explicitely:
   [u'competence', u'customer', u'domain', u'file', u'note', u'person', 
    u'predicate', u'task', u'textdocument', u'topic', u'training', u'type']
 
-  >>> pa = xrf.getParents('6')
+  >>> pa = xrf.getParents('5')
   >>> len(pa)
   1
   >>> pa[0]['name']