diff --git a/external/element.py b/external/element.py
index 672aaa2..1e42f52 100644
--- a/external/element.py
+++ b/external/element.py
@@ -89,7 +89,8 @@ class ConceptElement(Element):
     def execute(self, loader):
         type = loader.concepts[self['type']]
         kw = dict((k, v) for k, v in self.items()
-                         if k not in self.posArgs)
+                         #if k not in self.posArgs)
+                         if k not in ['name', 'type'])
         self.object = loader.addConcept(self['name'], self['title'], type)
         formState = self.getInstance().applyTemplate(data=kw, ignoreValidation=True)
         # simple hack for resolving interface definition:
@@ -97,7 +98,8 @@ class ConceptElement(Element):
         if pi:
             adapted(self.object).predicateInterface = resolve(pi)
 
-    def getInstance(self, omit=['title']):
+    #def getInstance(self, omit=['title']):
+    def getInstance(self, omit=[]):
         adObject = adapted(self.object)
         schemaFactory = ISchemaFactory(adObject)
         ti = IType(self.object).typeInterface or IConceptSchema
diff --git a/table.py b/table.py
index 28faa9b..0ccca60 100644
--- a/table.py
+++ b/table.py
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ from cybertools.composer.schema.factory import SchemaFactory
 from cybertools.composer.schema.grid.interfaces import KeyTable
 from cybertools.composer.interfaces import IInstance
 from loops.common import AdapterBase, adapted, baseObject
+from loops.external.element import Element
 from loops.interfaces import IConcept, IConceptSchema, ILoopsAdapter
 from loops.type import TypeInterfaceSourceList
 from loops import util
@@ -99,8 +100,9 @@ class DataTableSchemaFactory(SchemaFactory):
 
     def __call__(self, interface, **kw):
         schema = super(DataTableSchemaFactory, self).__call__(interface, **kw)
-        schema.fields.remove('columns')
-        schema.fields.remove('viewName')
+        if not isinstance(kw.get('manager'), Element):
+            schema.fields.remove('columns')
+            schema.fields.remove('viewName')
         return schema